[blockquote]I believe the Spirit is inviting us into a significantly different way of being the body of Christ, in which we begin by remembering that the body already has a head. That head is not this body, or General Convention, and indeed that head doesn’t reside anywhere tangible – except as we begin to discern and discover how the spirit is at work among us and around us.[/blockquote]
So the head does not reside anywhere tangible except as we discern and discover – this sounds quite a bit more like some form of collective consciousness, rather than the Holy Spirit of a triune God that moved over the waters in creation.
tired, this same how-I-perceive-the-Spirit-trumps-all-else theology is the same that tore apart the Quakers. Friends historically accepted the Scripture as, well, Gospel. So did Episcopalians.
She spends much of her address talking about grief. Is she really grieving for the death of the Church? Is she acknowledging that the last 60 years has been an abject example of failed theology and leadership? Is she acknowledging her part in this debacle? Is it all Bishop Pike’s fault or does the fault really lie in the stupidity of the common parishioner who can’t let go of his or her antiquated “faith” so that they can embrace the new, “enlightened” knowledge of the age of Schori? My soul weeps for the Church. My heart aches for future. Yet I am confident that no matter what this apostate marionette may try to do to the historic faith of our fathers; God will win the day!
Do you think the penny will ever drop as to what the consequences are from turning from the worship of God to the worship of homosexuality?
I agree with her the Spirit is at work here, and the consequences are quite predictable, especially if one had bothered to read the Bible. She probably should start with the word “Ichabod.”
6. Sacerdotal451 wrote: “My soul weeps for the Church. My heart aches for future.”
Christ’s church is alive and well, in other places. I sometimes think of TEC, in which I was raised, as a beloved grandmother who, due to the loss of her husband and other vagaries of old age, has become filthy and degenerate and criminal. You still love who she used to be, and seek frantically for ways to help her. It’s so horribly sad.
It is hard to ignore the signs of decline in TEC. In a way it is some of the most honest statements that have been made about TEC by +KJS. Not that I expect any of them will want to do anything that comes close to returning to orthodox Anglicanism, but the pain is being felt. Not pretty.
Well written off2- Nice analogy- aging, dying and you still love her for what she used to be. Yep. That is much of TEC.
There is no mention of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
This address could be read to gathering of Hindus, Buddhists, etc. without offending any of them.
Which raises the question,
“Who in the group that she is addressing is she trying not to offend?”
It certainly can’t be the traditional/orthodox Christians, if there were any present.
[blockquote]I believe the Spirit is inviting us into a significantly different way of being the body of Christ, in which we begin by remembering that the body already has a head. That head is not this body, or General Convention, and indeed that head doesn’t reside anywhere tangible – except as we begin to discern and discover how the spirit is at work among us and around us.[/blockquote]
So the head does not reside anywhere tangible except as we discern and discover – this sounds quite a bit more like some form of collective consciousness, rather than the Holy Spirit of a triune God that moved over the waters in creation.
🙄
Maybe she felt a great disturbance in the Force?
Reading through all of these makes me wonder which character from “Alice in Wonderland” will pop up next.
tired, this same how-I-perceive-the-Spirit-trumps-all-else theology is the same that tore apart the Quakers. Friends historically accepted the Scripture as, well, Gospel. So did Episcopalians.
Quite the victory speech.
She spends much of her address talking about grief. Is she really grieving for the death of the Church? Is she acknowledging that the last 60 years has been an abject example of failed theology and leadership? Is she acknowledging her part in this debacle? Is it all Bishop Pike’s fault or does the fault really lie in the stupidity of the common parishioner who can’t let go of his or her antiquated “faith” so that they can embrace the new, “enlightened” knowledge of the age of Schori? My soul weeps for the Church. My heart aches for future. Yet I am confident that no matter what this apostate marionette may try to do to the historic faith of our fathers; God will win the day!
What can you expect from a post-modern leader of a post-church gathering that is quite possibly is post-christian in it’s outlook?
Nothing good.
Do you think the penny will ever drop as to what the consequences are from turning from the worship of God to the worship of homosexuality?
I agree with her the Spirit is at work here, and the consequences are quite predictable, especially if one had bothered to read the Bible. She probably should start with the word “Ichabod.”
6. Sacerdotal451 wrote: “My soul weeps for the Church. My heart aches for future.”
Christ’s church is alive and well, in other places. I sometimes think of TEC, in which I was raised, as a beloved grandmother who, due to the loss of her husband and other vagaries of old age, has become filthy and degenerate and criminal. You still love who she used to be, and seek frantically for ways to help her. It’s so horribly sad.
It is hard to ignore the signs of decline in TEC. In a way it is some of the most honest statements that have been made about TEC by +KJS. Not that I expect any of them will want to do anything that comes close to returning to orthodox Anglicanism, but the pain is being felt. Not pretty.
Well written off2- Nice analogy- aging, dying and you still love her for what she used to be. Yep. That is much of TEC.